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John A. Coyne HallBoston@aol.com (17 Apr 99) (303rd BGA Member) Family is going to the Molesworth AFB in April 22-27. No reservations. They hope to see where I was stationed.

Jim Corbett jim@aircrashuk.freeserve.co.uk (17 Apr 99) I am looking for any photos of B17G 44-6504 flown by George Kyle. The aircraft crashed into Cheviot Hill, Northumberland, England on 16 December 1944. I am interested in photos taken before the aircraft crashed even if it appears in the background of a picture. Cheers, Jim

Larry Mazey maze@inetone.net (17 Apr 99) (family of a 303rd Member) We would like to have any information on F/O Paul L. Mazey 358th Bomb...The Name of the B-17 was Caught In The Draft, this plane was shot down over Germany with two survivors, one of which was my father Paul Mazey. If anyone has any info on this please let us know.
[Your father F/O Paul L. Mazey was assigned as the Bombardier in the 2ndLt James Moffatt 358th BS crew on 1/22/44. The crew was shot down on their third combat mission on 2/22/44 after bombing Aschersleben, Germany. They were flying in B-17F #42-5052 358th BS (VK-E) named Mizpah. The 303rd had no B-17 named Caught in the Draft. I do not know what the letters "MIZPAH" mean or how or by whom this B-17 was named. Five members of the crew survived (Pilot, CoPilot, Bombardier [your father], Flight Engineer and Tail Gunner). Five crewmen were killed in Action (Navigator, Radio, Left and Right Waist Gunners and Ball Turret Gunner). Mizpah was shot down at Garzweyler, Germany and crashed near Nordhausen Germany. The #1 and #2 engines were smoking after they left the flak area. Three other 303rd BG(H) B-17s were also lost on this mission. Details of the missions can be found in our 303rd BG(H) history book, Might in Flight. Two other 8th AF Bomb Groups had B-17s named "Caught in the Draft" - 390th and 487th Bomb Groups. It is possible that your father flew in one of these B-17s from the USA to England after which it was assigned to one of the other Bomb Groups. Harry D. Gobrecht, President and Historian 303rd BG(H) Association]

Ralph E. Page WGPage@AOL.com (son's address) (16 Apr 99) (303rd BGA Member) Thank you again for your diligence with the web site. A couple of corrections FYI re: the Harry Cook Crew. Harry B Cook should be Harry S Cook and Frederick H Mason was the only copilot on the Harry S Cook crew.

William J.(Bill) Carter W Carter516@aol.com (14 Apr 99) (303rd BGA Member) I was a ball turret gunner on what was originally Joe Gordon's crew; later Neil Cunningham's crew -arrived Molesworth mid-Dec 1944, down over Koblenz on 1/8/45, 2 wks in France back to base late Jan; flew 35th mission to Pilsen on 4/25/45. Last contact with any crew member in 1962-many now deceased but would like to learn anything concerning--Neil Cunningham, Joe Gordon, Kenneth Boone, LeBurn Sprinkles-all former crew members or a good friend Warren Chrisman of Columbia, MO. also in 358th and shot down early in his tour. This site is great and I have spent many hours here and it has certainly sharpened the my memory bank. What a wonderful thing to have!!

Jim Walling jimwall@ilhawaii.net (13 Apr 99) (303rd BGA Member) Ball turret Gunner Lt Goodberlet's crew. When I returned after completing my missions in March ,1945, I sent to Miami Beach for R&R. My Wife and I stayed in one of the hotels on the beach taken over by the Military. We had a great time, and neither of us can remember the name of the hotel. It was small, on the river side of the street and had a French sounding name. If we heard the name or saw a picture I think we would recognize it. Can anyone help?

Amy Meyer ameyer@mission.mvnc.edu (13 Apr 99) (family of a 303rd Member) This was great. Are there any photos of my uncle, Wilbur Meyer? Grandpa (Willis Meyer) talks about his experiences a lot. This is awesome.

clerick didier djhawbg@village.uunet.be (12 Apr 99) hi my name is didier i am a member off the hells angels motorcycle club i am verry happy that i found your site i am verry interested in the history of the hells angels its a great job you doing here to collect all the history off the hells angels please continue that way a lot of love and respect didier affa8172 ps. i heard there is a bombgroup active in yougouslavia can you please tell me something about it respectfully didier

Paul Burns pburns@norfolk-county.com (11 Apr 99) (family of a 303rd Member) My uncle is Technical Sargent Francis J. Burns 303 Bomber Group, 358 Bomber Squadron. B-17 plane was the Sky Wolf. If anyone has contact information on other living crew members I would like to know.
[Your Uncle T/Sgt Francis J. Burns was on the Lt Carl H. Morales Crew. This was one of the original 303rd BG(H) crews. The Morales Crew Navigator, Walter C. Hunter, Jr. is still alive. I just talked with him on the telephone and he would be happy to chat with you about your uncle. None of the other Morales crewmen are members of our 303rd BG(H) Association and I have no knowledge of their whereabouts. Harry D. Gobrecht]

Gary N Weigel gweigel@ameritech.net (10 Apr 99) (family of a 303rd Member) My Grandfather Capt. Robert Henery Newell, M.D. was flight surgeon with this group. As a child growing up I was fascinated with his stories. My grandfather passed away three years ago but he left me with many wonderful memories. A year before he died I had the opportunity of taking him to an airshow where a B-17 had flown in and the two of us toured it. I had a new found respect for him and all the other men that flew in those aircraft. I thank you for putting this web page together I also have a photo album of his as well as his uniforms. I would be more happy to speak with you further if you like.

Steve McColaugh steve@electroshield.com (9 Apr 99) Hello, I sent a message on 4/8/99 that I'm not sure made it. I am in the process of gathering the info on the 12/20/43 Breman mission in order to build 1/72nd scale models of the 19 planes over the target. If you can assist me in any way with nose art and any other marking info on these specific planes I will be able to proceed. Harry Gobrecht was kind enough to send me the mission list for 12/20/43. From that I have determined the various kits that I need. (They are on order). What I'm hoping to do is make an in-flight display of the bomb-run with as much detail as possible. Thanks in advance! Steve McColaugh, 1-800-662-1054 (W), 1-937-767-4081 (H)

Woody Harris wgharr@hotmail.com (8 Apr 99) I am Director of the Stillwater (OK) Airport Memorial Museum. In 1945 78 B-17s and 398 assorted warbirds were sent to Stillwater for storage and eventual scrapping, except for about 20 aircraft. Between four and six of the B-17s were from the 303rd including: Hell's Angels, Knockout Dropper and Yankee Doodle Dandy. More on this story at your reunion in Oklahoma City. Ed Miller visited our museum today and mentioned the Group web page. Also I was a "Thunderbird" with the 45th Division during the Korean War. We have a great museum in Oklahoma City with a large number of artifacts from the European Campaign. Your web page is a great one, I appreciate the time and effort not only in the construction of the page, but the many hours of research that were involved in collecting the data included in this page. Woody Harris, 26 Preston Circle, Stillwater, OK 74075.

Arnold J Knadle arnoldjk@home.com (8 Apr 99) I was an Aviation Cadet in 1944-1945 and stationed at Hendricks Field, Sebring FL. I did fly in B17s as a Flight Engineer waiting to go to flight school, but the war was winding down. I did enjoy the Air Corps and it was a great experience. God did bless all those who served.

Audrey Mason Gibson SNOSBIG@aol.com (7 Apr 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I am the youngest sister of Fred Mason, from Harry Cook's Crew of Tiny Angel. They flew the plane with the crew on board over to England instead of the ferry pilots. I can still recall the phone call from Hunter Field in Georgia from my brother telling us that "cockter and dingle" (his imaginary bird playmates as a child) would be flying over. To our great surprise, Tiny Angel flew over our home and John Smalley was dropping paper cups out of the tail with goodbye messages on them. We never received them. The crew was on their way to Newfoundland then on to England. It was a sight I will never forget. Fred will long be remembered for his singing, trying to keep the morale up in the prison camp. We have the record of the story of Fred on a War Bond story where they tell of his head injury and the amnesia that followed. Singer Johnny Desmond portrayed Fred. John Smalley, the tail gunner, spent his last furlough before going overseas with our family in Belleville, New Jersey while overseas. I kept in touch with his mom and to this day I am still in touch with his widow Clara who I personally met after his death. I also visited Fred in France just before he died. His widow Edith still lives in France.

Tim Wyatt twyatt@dallasnews.com (7 Apr 99) I'm a reporter, retelling the story of a bombardier in the 360th (Breed's Crew -- "Shak Hak") by the name of Homer "Mack" Santerre. Any details on their flight 16 Feb 43 over St. Nazaire sub base would really help -- anyone who saw go down or head out to the channel, where they supposedly ditched. Any flak conditions, fighter resistance on that day. Anything from MACR #15116. Any memories of the crew, successful runs to ? before being shot down? Did they deliver their bomb load that day? Anything. Thanks so much.
[Tuesday morning, 16 February 1943, was a typical February day at the 303rd BG(H) "Hell's Angels" airfield at Molesworth, England - foggy, dark, damp cold and lonely. Fifteen 303rd BG(H) crews were awakened at 0400 AM. Breakfast was at 0445, briefing at 0545, at stations with their B-17s at 0745, take off scheduled for 0845. During the crew briefing it was announced that the target would be "Flak City" the dreaded Saint Nazaire, France submarine pens. The 303rd led a formation consisting of the following: Four 101st Combat wing B-17 Groups then know as the "Four Horsemen"; 303rd BG (15 crews), 305th BG (18 Crews), 306th BG (20 crews) and 91st BG (20 crews). Following the 101st Combat wing were two B-24 groups of the 102nd Combat Wing; 44th BG (12 crews) and 93rd BG (6 crews). These six Groups constituted the entire 8th Air Force, a far cry from the 40 Bomb Groups and 15 Fighter Groups that could dispatch 1,600 or more bombers a year and one-half later.

The fifteen 303rd BG B-17s started their takeoffs at 0846. Two B-17s aborted the mission for equipment failures. Thirteen B-17s and crews bombed the target from 25,000 feet at 1045 with 31 3.4 tons of 500 and 1,000 pound high explosive bombs. Many bomb bursts were observed in the target area which was covered with smoke and fires. Some bursts were seen in the harbor water. Moderate black and red flak bursts were encountered before, during and after the target was bombed. Approximately 50 German fighters made 137 attacks on the 303rd formation. 303rd gunners were credited with four German fighters destroyed, one probably destroyed and one damaged. Two 303rd B-17s were forced to ditch in the ice cold waters off Saint Nazaire. The Captain W.H. Breed crew, with 1Lt H.N. Santerre as Bombardier, flying in 360th BS B-17F #42-2967 Shak Hak, ditched in the Brest Peninsula after being hit by enemy fighters. All ten crewmen were killed. Details of the ditching are not known. The Captain L.G. Dunnica,flying in 358th BS B0-17F #41-24541 Spook ditched northeast of Brest. Six crewmen were killed in action. Four managed to get in a life raft, reached shore, were captured and became POWs. The surviving eleven 303rd B-17s returned to our Molesworth airfield at 1405 to 1411 hours. Seven men from six crews had injuries: 3 frostbites, 1 sprained shoulder, 2 burns from electrical clothing, 1 man unconscious due to a lack of oxygen. Only two required hospitalization. Several of the returning "Flying Fortresses" had extensive damage.

Sixty-five of the eighty-nine 8th AF bombers dispatched managed to bomb the target. 8 B-17s and crews with 81 men were lost. One returning B-17 had a dead crewman and seven returning aircraft had men with serious injuries. Thirty of the sixty-five bombers who managed to bomb the target had serious damage. 8th air Force crews were credited with 20-12-2 enemy fighters destroyed, probably destroyed or damaged. Saint Nazaire lived up to it's reputation as a dreaded target. Harry D. Gobrecht, LtCol, USAF (Ret) President and Historian, 303rd BG(H) Association]

Robert Kirsling rak1@mail.execpc.com (5 Apr 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I was exploring web sites relating to our family name, Kirsling, and happened on your site which shows a picture of my Uncle Fred Kirsling. I was very pleasantly surprised.

Tom Hayman Scorpion11@msn.com (5 Apr 99) (303rd BGA Member) Hello again. I would like to tell the other members about a project I am doing, scanning 1,500 photos plus and storing them on a CD-Rom. They are from the 457th BG, I would like to do the same for the 303rd when I am done they will be sent to the Air Force Research Center and like places for future historians, if anyone can help please e-mail and I will explain what I need. Thanks, Tom
[We have a similar project underway at present time. Thanks so very much. Ed Miller]

LLoyd Grant hungrycoyote@netzero.net (5 Apr 99) (family of a 303rd Member) Hello fellers, just me again poking my nose around the IN. Found Roy Smith in the guest file and sent he and his son an E-mail. Your files indicated that D. Stockton was KIA RTB 5/14/43. That jibed with what dad told me. I'm attempting to research that mission to verify one of the few stories dad related to me. me. Still plan to join the association. My "Group Commander" says no extra expense until I get back to work (been laid off for a month-things are a bit tight, but no sweat). I would not have had the time to begin this research otherwise. Keep her on the center line. Best. LG.

Bernie Spring BJSpring@msn.com (5 Apr 99) (family of a 303rd Member) My father served in the 303rd, I would love to be able to find out how he would be able to reach some of his old buddies or just find out about them. My fathers name is Vincent J. Spring, He was in the 328th and 444th A/D. Does anyone remember him? It would be a nice surprise for him. Is there any listing that's more in depth? Otherwise this is great, thanks for your efforts!!

Michael LeBlanc (4 Apr 99) Hi, I'm an amateur researcher interested in gathering stories of escapers and would be evaders. I've been collecting this kind of 'gen' for the last 15 years or so, and have several hundreds of accounts from allied airmen, their helpers, etc.

Steven L. Mace steve@preg.org (3 Apr 99) (family of a 303rd Member) Hi All, I just found your great site last night. My father, Leroy (Shorty) Mace is still surviving and healthy, and a former member of the 303rd. He served on the Knockout Dropper, Eight Ball, and Rambling Wreck. Probably others as well. He received the Distinguished Flying Cross, Purple Heart, and 5 or 6 Air medals. He flew 2 tours and was hand picked by Manning to be the belly gunner in Manning's Crew. He also flew on the lead crew for the Oschersleben mission. He has numerous crew photos, newspaper clippings, original unit citation texts, and his personal diary of his first tour covering mission details. I know he would love to hear from you and would be proud to make copies of memorabilia for your page. I have some great crew photos I will send in once I get my scanner fixed. My dad is currently 82 years old and is on the Internet at macelm@ntslink.net. If you email him, please mail me on a CC so I can tell him to check his email. Thanks for a great site! I'll send in crew photos of the Eight Ball, Knockout Dropper and Rambling Wreck when my scanner is operational again. Regards, Steve Mace

Cleveland Woodward Whitten cjaw11225@hotmail.com (31 Mar 99) I am looking for crewmates. I was the ball turret gunner with this crew. My wife, is the internet person in our household. The email address is hers. She is my SIOUX CITY, IOWA war bride. Moved her to Texas and she never went back to the midwest. Pop Mitchell was the eldest of the crew.. 33 years of age in 1944. I was the next eldest.. 26 in 1944. The crew found me in Pyote, Texas. Came into my barracks and asked if I would serve with them as their ball turret gunner. I said yes. Best decision. We made all 30 missions together. J.T. had made several missions with another crew, but, he stayed with us to finish up our 30 together. A good man. He didn't have to do that. We all appreciated him. Pilot was J. T. Williams Crew: Stuart L. Barber, Neil Coats, J. Fazio, Roald Grunseth, John (Pop) Mitchell... Top Turret Gunner, J Northam, John Ott, Howard Schwenke.

Patrick Walsh Patrick_Walsh@cguusa.com (31 Mar 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I have written previously but I now am writing with my email address. My grandfather was Albert Senechal (A.J.). He flew on the Tennessee Hillbilly which was shot down 3/26/43 I believe. I look forward to any responses. Thank you!

Ebb B. Owen 1Sgt (Ret) cotton2@swbell.net (31 Mar 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I was looking for information on my Cousin Burl M. Owen. He was in 303rd Group 360th? I found his name but his last name is Owen, no "s" on the end. I am a retired U. S. Army First Sergeant and I visited Burl's grave at Maugratten Holland the last time I was stationed in Germany. I was born in 1942 so I never got to meet Burl, but have always been told great stories about him from my older brothers who served in WWII. I would like to hear from any one who knew him.

Katherine Mason Ritter kritter@sfcc.net (30 Mar 99) Hi all; Thank you all for your prompt attention. Fred is probably up there saying; "Well done Sis." Joking. I will be sending my dues check in the next day or so Mr. Miller. Thank you so very much for checking that for me. I do want to remain a member of your organization. I firmly believe in keeping the memories alive. You guys deserve at least that much. A while back I sent someone, I do not remember to whom, an audio tape of a radio program from the Treasury Department. This was a dramatization of Fred's experience referring to his injuries. I have never heard as to whether or not it was received. I probably sent it to whoever was the historian at the time. It must have been in the last 2 to 5 years. Happy Easter to all of you.

Patrick Walsh (28 Mar 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I am very impressed with this collection of information. My grandfather flew in the 303 427th Tennessee Hillbilly. His name is Albert Senechal (A.J.). I look forward to visiting in the future.
[PATRICK WALSH: I was the co-pilot on the Tennessee Hillbilly and was shot down along with your uncle. Please contact me. William J. Dallas wmjdallas@aol.com]

Ullman Fortenberry w4gko@sonet.net (28 Mar 99) I saw your website as a link on my group website, 463rd Bomb Group, and always like to look at things associated with WW2. I was a pilot in the 463rd Bomb Group stationed at Foggia Italy. Keep up the good work.

Anthony Sacco Sr tonysacco@adelphia.net (28 Mar 99) Great web site. Anyone in the 359th Squadron, 303 Bomb Group Molesworth, England. Would like to hear from you . Anthony Sacco Sr., 1100 Mohawk Trail, North Adams, MA 01247

Bill Heller wheller@attglobal.net (27 Mar 99) (303rd BGA Member) Gary ... When I read comments such as those from Col. Michael Crutcher's on our website, it gives me great hope for the future. Your are doing a great service with your site and as our webmaster. It is appreciated.

Richard A. Bettencourt RichB415@PacBell.net (27 Mar 99) I was elected President of the 381st Bomb Group (H) Memorial Association at our reunion in Savannah, GA. Our 1999 reunion will be in Houston, TX. You have an excellent web site. Come visit us at www.381st.org, we will be glad to see you. Rich Bettencourt, navigator 26 missions - March 1, 1945 to April 25, 1945

John Scott john.scott@virtual9.com (27 Mar 99) I am looking to find Joseph B Strange who posted an article in the Northampton UK newspaper re info from WWII. My Mom was an air raid warden and knew both people in the photo, one of whom is still alive, and knew the name of Joe's favourite bar! I have sent a similar mail to Joseph's son, as I found his address through your site. My Mom's name is Amy Scott, and she can still cook a good supper when I visit with her!

Michael Crutcher crutchem@epix.net (27 Mar 99) As one who was born about 5 days after VE day, I would just like to express my appreciation to everything that all of you in the 8th AF did for our country and the world. While in Europe on active duty in the Army I got to Molesworth in 1991. I have read a LOT about the 8th AF, and it was exciting to be there. One hangar remained, and as I flew over, I could still see the outline of the runway. Thanks again for your sacrifices. You shall not be forgotten, for I am raising my son and daughter to understand the sacrifice your generation made for mine -- and theirs. Great web site. Michael Crutcher, COL, USA Ret (1st Bn/5th Cav Vietnam)

Marco Rosa b17s@topmail.com.ar (26 Mar 99) The page is very cool!!! do you have some pics with the Hell's Angels NoseArt?? Please send to me.

Cleveland, Woodward Whitten, JR cjaw11225@hotmail.com (26 Mar 99) The "Name" is my husband's. The email address is mine.. Carole Jean Anderson Whitten. I am interested in finding some of his crew that he flew with during his 30 missions from Molesworth, England. I would appreciate any help that you can give me.

Katherine Mason Ritter kritter@sfcc.net (25 Mar 99) (303rd BGA Member) I have noticed that you seem to have an error in the personnel list under the 427th Squadron, Harry Cook's crew. You show two CP listed as follows: Mason Frederick H. - Nelson Frederick H. Frederick H. Mason, my brother, was the co-pilot. You have more information shown for the name Nelson, Frederick H which I think belongs to Mason, Frederick. I also found the name Nelson, Frederick H. listed in the alphabetical list which also may be incorrect. I think you should verify this and delete the Frederick H. Nelson from the crew list and the alphabetical list. Yours truly, Katherine Mason Ritter

Colin Maxwell Savage savage@panix.com (24 Mar 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I came upon this while looking for information about my grandfather: James Lawrence Maxwell. Since he met my grandmother after the war and served as a career officer in a variety of posts, no one in my family could recall the details of his WWII service -- other than the generic in England, on a B-17, as a POW in Germany. So, in a few minutes on this site I've found a wealth of information, from a verification of when and where he went MIA to the names of his fellow crew-members. So, thanks very much for pulling this together; it's extremely valuable. One question I have is whether there are resources for researching POWs associated with the 8th, the 303rd or the 359th. My grandfather was a prisoner from 10-4-43 until liberation, and I am actively seeking information about where he was held. Thank you.

Matthew Dube (23 Mar 99) I came here in search of some information on the 303rd Bombardment Group. I'm doing a research report in my U.S. History class on something about the United States that interested us. I chose this topic because I have been trying to read more about it and learn about the fighter planes, and the aviators.

Greg "Smitty" Smithwick smitty@cutthroats.com (23 Mar 99) Salute Gentlemen! My name is Greg Smithwick, and I live in Hudson, Florida, a little north of Tampa. My friend Ken Strohm Jr. sent me here, to see the copy of my photo that I provided him (Fred F. Wilson Crew). I cannot begin to tell you how proud I am to have the shot here. I am only 34, and I am sure you think all us whipper snappers are long haired ingrates. Well, the hair IS long, but I just wanted to say thank you. Thank you for all your sacrifices. Without them, being an American would mean less. Once again, SALUTE!! We are so proud of you.
[It may surprise you, but not every one of the pre W.W.II generation believes that everyone in their 30's are "whipper snappers and long haired ingrates." While we may prefer shorter hair styles, we do respect your right of choice. I am one of many who feel that your generation is making contributions to the strength of our country and society that most of us find difficult to understand. I also firmly believe that you have hardships and challenges to overcome that are far beyond those faced by my generation. My hat is off to you and most young people today. Just do your very best and both you and our country will prosper. Harry D. Gobrecht, President 303rd BG(H) Association]

Jon Mason jsmason@neworld.net (23 Mar 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I was wondering if there is anyone that can relate any stories (true or false) about my uncle, Frederick Hunter Mason? Fred is my father's younger brother. I am in the midst of a family genealogy and am running out of family and friends that knew Uncle Fred. I can be contacted at the above e-mail or at the following address; Jon Mason, PO Box 6987, Auburn, CA 95604-6987, (530-885-0416 Voice) (530-885-1711 FAX) (530-400-8260 Cell). Thank you in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
[Your uncle, 2ndLt Frederick Hunter Mason, (Army Serial number 0-820791) was the CoPilot on the 1Lt Harry S. Cook Crew. The crew was assigned to the 427th Bombardment Squadron/303rd Bombardment Group (H) at our Molesworth, England airfield on June 22, 1944. On August 15, 1944 the crew, flying in B-17G #42-102432 Tiny Angel 427thBS (GN-U) was shot down by German fighters on a combat mission to bomb a German airfield at Wiesbaden, Germany. Three members of the Cook crew were killed in action (Pilot, Flight Engineer and Waist Gunner). The Tail Gunner, Sgt. J. L. Smelly had his leg shot off but managed to parachute safely, was captured and made a POW. He was later repatriated. The other five crewmen, including your uncle, became POWs. Their B-17 exploded and crashed near Mulberry, Germany. Your uncle was on his 15th combat mission. The crew Navigator, Ralph E. Page, is a member of our 303rd BG(H) Association and may be able to give you additional information. You can rest assured that all of the stories that your uncle related to you and other members of your family are true. Harry D. Gobrecht, President and Historian 303rd BG(H) Association]

Murray ammi19-2@idt.net (20 Mar 99) Surfing for "Hells Angels"_ grabbed your site_ As far as I'm concerned_ Your "Guy's"_ are the REAL HELL's ANGEL's_!!! and I'd like to Thank them_ for being there.

Donald O."SPEC" Campen, Jr. ibspec@aol.com (18 Mar 99) (303rd BGA Member) Steven Proffitt, III contacted me after seeing my remarks here. I had been searching for 303rd persons in the VA area without success. Now about 4 miles away from me in Richmond, VA is Steven Proffitt, Jr. father of the III, a 303rd pilot and I assume a member of our 303rd assn. If not he should be and I am encouraging his son to join. We are to chat soon. There are many more kin that have contacted our site that should join. I commend our webmaster team for their efforts therein.
[FYI about 30 members of the 303rd BGA live in Virginia. Hal Susskind]

K E Strohm kenjr@bluerosecomputers.net (17 Mar 99) I am looking for information on a 303rd Radio Operator: MIRKIN, HERMAN H T/SGT 32437266 360TH RADIO. Mr. Mirkin died recently but he left in my possession NUMEROUS photos he took during the war. Some of these include a captured FW 190 in British paint. I would like more information on Mr. Mirkin (Plane he flew in, etc.) Any help with this would be appreciated

Tom Hayman Scorpion11@msn.com (12 Mar 99) (303rd BGA Member) I would like to say to Bill Dallas thanks for sending me your story and I can't e-mail you due to some reason that is beyond me (I'll keep trying). I would also like to say again that this site is an excellent one and I enjoy the stories and photos on it keep it up ,and I hope to see some of you over here soon (Molesworth) - Tom

Howard Tullos htullos1@airmail.net (12 Mar 99) Hello Gary, I have been surfing the "Hell's Angels" 303rd BG web site and it brought back many memories. I was in the 1199th M. P. Company on the base at Molesworth. I was there when the Group celebrated their 300th mission. and went to Casa Blanca after the War in Europe. You have a wonderful Web site. PFC. Howard Tullos, 1199th M.P. Co.

William J. Dallas wmjdallas@aol.com (10 Mar 99) (303rd BGA Member) I have an addition and a comment to make about Mars' Crew. I have corresponded with Shiley Nivens and Jonnie Mars about the crew photo. That picture was taken before we went overseas and some of the crew members in the picture did not go with us. The people are: Front row Left to Right: 2nd Lt. Charles W. Mars, Pilot; 2nd Lt. William J. Dallas, Co-Pilot; James G. Clark, Jr, Navigator; Charles W. Webster, Bombardier. Rear Row Left to Right: S/Sgt A. Pappas, Engineer; Sgt. C.H. Lunde, Asst. Engr.;Sgt. Eddie McGinnis, Radio Operator;Sgt. Petrowski, Ass't Armorer;Charles W. Dunlap, Ball Turret; A.J. Seneschal, Tail Gunner. Shiley was disappointed that his father, Delbert Nivens, was not in the photograph.

Charles Wickwire cwickwire@getaway.net (9 Mar 99) 2Lt Grady B. Ward has identified the others in Reddig's crew. Mr. Ward stated he would have been on the Lady Fairweather the day she went down but he had been wounded in the left hand the day before and was in the hospital. We hope the information is of use. [Thanks, the photo has been updated.]

Charles Wickwire cwickwire@getaway.net (8 Mar 99) 2LT Grady B. Ward; 359th Sq is my neighbor. I located him in the photo of 1LT Arthur E. Reddig's Crew. Mr. Ward is standing in the back row, far right. He has not changed a bit!! Mr. Ward has a copy of this photo at his home and can identify the other crew members. I will suggest that we e-mail the men's names to you. I would be very interested in seeing a photo of Lady Fairweather since Mr. Ward flew in the aircraft. The 303rd is a remarkable group. Thank you for serving. The liberty we enjoy is by your service.
[Our 303rd BG(H) archives do not include a photo of Lady Fairweather. B-17F #41-24568 359th BS (BN-U). This B-17 was lost on 11/23/42 on her third mission. Target was St. Nazaire, France. Pilot 1stLt A.E. Reddig, CoPilot Capt C.G. Miller. The B-17 ditched in the Atlantic Ocean near Belle Isle. She was in flames when she hit the water. All ten crewmen were killed. This was the first B-17 that the 303rd BG(H) lost on a combat mission. Since she was a new B-17 on her third mission no photos had yet been taken. Harry D. Gobrecht, President and Historian 303rd BG(H) Association]

Bob Russell ohwise1@worldnet.att.net (8 Mar 99) I grew up with Roman Kosinski. Roman bailed out of the Meathound and was captured and was in Stalag #4 until the war ended. He came home and started a family and passed away not too long ago. He said that he never heard anything about any of his crew. He never talked too much about prison camp except about the few times that he escaped and was captured and brought back. Rome also said that beside buzzing the Yankee stadium Lt. Watson also flew over Cos Cob Ct. where Roman lived. I saw the plane but didn't know it was him until after the war. I would like to hear from anyone who might have more info about Watson's Crew. I did see the lists concerning the Meathound Thanks for all things and please let me hear from anyone. Bob Russell

Edward Charles Godfrey godfrey_ed@hotmail.com (7 Mar 99) Dear Gary: I served with the 15th.(SAC), Air Force 22nd Bomb Wing and was stationed at March AFB. 1958 to 1962. I flew TDY all over the World. The 8th Air force 303rd Bomb Wing, set the the bench mark, for Freedom. I'll always be proud, of the the "Hells Angels". God Bless! Ed "The Kid" Godfrey Sr.

Scott Duerr drophammer@rdinet.net (7 Mar 99) (family of 303rd Member) I just found out about this web site last night. I haven't had time to show my father, Richard D. Duerr, yet because he is in the hospital recovering from his second heart bypass surgery. It seems that most of his life revolves around his experiences with the 303rd. He has been to the past 4 or 5 reunions. He was a belly gunner on the Sweet Loranada and a POW. I can't wait to show him this site. This will certainly speed his recovery!

Douglas Glen Lewis dcdouglas3@aol.com (06 Mar 99) Dear members of 303rd. Thank you for joining or going to war by draft. The blood of you fallen comrades and the sweat of your brow affords me the freedom to write this memo. I can only hope that your membership has a strong following of family and friends of the 303rd. It would be a shame to lose these wonderful stories I came across. Once again thank you very much. Douglas Glen Lewis, Lexington, KY

Sam Braswell sambwell@concentric.net (6 Mar 99) A great site that really fills a need. History books fail to mention the extremely high price paid for the freedom we, as a nation, take for granted, especially in terms of the human experience. Young people today do not realize, much less understand that our very survival as a nation was at stake. They know little or nothing about the blue and gold stars that hung in the windows at home; of rationing, black outs and how the entire nation pulled together. Hollywood could never quite put it all together on film, but your pictures, stories and letters tell the honest story and we need more. My cousin, Samuel W. Smith, Pilot, served with the 303rd and told me of your site and I have been back several times. I also make it a point to direct as many young people as I can to your web site in the hope they may learn something about the character of the country in which they live. Keep up the good work.

William J. (Bill) Dallas wmjdallas@aol.com (6 Mar 99) (303rd BGA Member) I have just had an experience that I hope is a trend. I was contacted by a former crew member's son that wanted information about the part we played in that deadly game over Europe. I hope more family members study what happened and take it as a very costly lesson for the future of our nation.

Bill Heller wheller@attglobal.net (6 Mar 99) (303rd BGA Member) How delighted I was read the comments of 28 year-old JIM HOLUJ, Jr. on our 303rd Website. I should like to let Jim know how grateful I am for his remarks. With all we are witnessing in America today, it is wonderful to hear such from the younger generation - in the Grandchild area. It shows he knows our history. With thousands of WW#2 Veterans leaving the scene each month, it is marvelous to know we leave behind such persons as JIM HOLUJ, Jr. I know I speak for many when I say, "Thank you, Jim!"

Jim Holuj Jr. (6 Mar 99) This is just a quick note to let you know that I thoroughly enjoyed the web site for the 303rd. I will be back to read through it time and time again. I am a 28 year old member of the 8th AF Historical Society. Words can't express what I feel toward you boys that sacrificed and accomplished so much over fortress Europe. Those deeds shall never be forgotten. Thank you. A grateful American, Jim
[Jim - you gave us a bad email address. Make sure you read the note above.]

Robert L. Phelps bigred128@hotmail.com (4 Mar 99) (303rd BGA Member) Lost touch with all members of squadron, group and wing and would like to hear from any flight or ground crew personnel with ties to 8 Ball or Black Diamond. I finished my 25th on the 2nd Schweinfurt raid and landed away from base short of fuel.

Jessica Cica1310@aol.com (4 Mar 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I just wanted to say thank you for this site. My Grand-dad was in the 303rd BG and is very proud of it. I am trying to now teach my oldest son things that went on in WW2. I am going to tell my Grand-dad of your site, He will love it, and I am sure that he will visit this site! My Papa';s name is Marvin R. Edwards. He was the TG in Flemings crew. I also wanted to tell you that I really enjoyed looking at your pictures. If you ever want to come to a wonderful Vets. Day celebration, then come visit Branson MO, This is where I live and every year there is a HUGE party for vets, so that we can say thank you!!!!!

Christopher Keveny ckeveny1@nycap.rr.com (28 Feb 99) Hi, I really like your site. Two things, first the picture of the B-17 attack labeled "Battle of the Bulge," states it taking place in Jan 44; it was Dec 44 to Jan 45 - just a typo. What I was wondering about was; were there any first hand accounts of flyers who took part in both the great disaster raid on Schweinfurt and on follow up raids, and what they felt before the second attack when they had already been through such a horror bombing there before?
[It was different then than it is now. Today when a few people get hurt, killed or otherwise are part of some tragedy, we have the benefit of counselors and other support to help with the trauma. Back then we got a shot of booze, went to bed and got ready for the next day. If a "disaster raid" means having friends captured, wounded or killed, almost all of them were disaster raids.]

David John Baldwin ridetroll@aol.com (25 Feb 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I was told stories about the 303rd by my grandmother and my dad, and what a thrill it was for them to see the bomber when it came to Yakima, WA!

Dale S. Baldwin sagerat@ewa.net (25 Feb 99) (family of a 303rd Member) Enjoyed your web page! My son and I were looking up information on Irl Baldwin. The pictures Grandma has are in tough shape. Both my boy's Grandpa's are pilots (my dad Jack flew a F-86D) so he thinks he wants to be one too! I would appreciate any additional photos or stories about Irl. Thank you so much, Dale.

Andrew Beaudet gemsarb@ao.com (24 Feb 99) I have received a ring with the markings of some military group and I was told that it was Company B of the 303rd. The ring also had some initials of MGB and EAK with two crossed M-1s. If you can help me in any way please send me a E-mail. Thankfully, Andrew Beaudet

John Stephen "Steve" Proffitt, III auctionlaw@aol.com (23 Feb 99) My father, 2d Lt. John Stephen Proffitt, Jr., was the pilot of Lucille (named for his new bride, later my mother) from October, 1944 until May, 1945. This archive you have built is a wonderful tribute to the many great men whose remarkable courage, devotion to duty, and love of country brought the Mighty Eighth's 303rd Bomb Group the success that it enjoyed in WWII, and the fame that it will carry forever. Thank you so very much for doing this for these men. They gave so much that we would have so much, and our eternal gratitude should be with them always. Yours very truly, A Mighty Proud Son!!! -- John Stephen "Steve" Proffitt, III, Richmond, VA

Edward Godfrey sgtgarfield@prodigy.net (22 Feb 99) I served from 1958-1964 15th Air Force (SAC) 22 Bomb Wing 22/320 Air Refueling Squadron. Proud the have been a part of the "Best In The World" AIM HIGH! GOD BLESS THE 8th AIR FORCE AND THE 303rd HAF!

Gilbert W Hewitt gwhewitt@concentric.net (22 Feb 99) (303rd BGA Member) In the web page I am listed as Hewitt, Gilbert W M/Sgt 6580476 427th ENGRG 05-01-42. What is the meaning of ENGRG? I was originally a radio operator in the 38th Reconnaissance Squadron which later became the 427th. I was in the group on there way to the islands on Dec 6th. Our aircraft Guenivere piloted by Lt. Zubko developed serious engine trouble and had to return McClelland. I met our returning ground at Boise and became ground crew. The ground crew was returning by ship. I enjoyed the story of the pooch "Recon." She was some dog. I retired as a Missile Officer at Vandenberg AFB as a Chief Warrant, CWO-4.

Janice Hogue Baldwin jbaldw01@hotmail.com (19 Feb 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I am the daughter of T/SGT Earl Hogue. My dad was in the 358th group as a radio operator/gunner. He passed away in the late 1970's at a very early age and I still miss him so much. Dad was also a POW in Germany for 24 months after being shot down on 7-4-43 over France. I see in the history file that O'Conner was the pilot. I am very interested in learning more about my dad, Earl Hogue. My sincere thanks and gratitude to the people who have worked so hard to compile and create such a great site for the 303rd Bombardment Group.

Martin dm1313@cwis.net (18 Feb 99) I saw an article in our local newspaper about your organization and being prior USAF thought I would check out your site. I also visited the webpages for the 423 AB Squadron and found addditional information about the 303rd. I enjoyed reading about the history of the bases and of the organizations. I live in a community which is comprised entirely of US War Veterans and their dependents in southeastern Oklahoma. We may have some vets who were in the 303rd and I'll see if I can find any. Our website is: Veterans Colony http://www.cwis.net/~dm1313/index.html Enjoyed my visit, Martin

Brian Rukes mmregistry@yahoo.com (18 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) Some time ago, I signed the guestbook asking for assistance on my research of the Hell's Angels of the 358th BS. I was writing a research paper on that subject for one of my upper- level college history courses. Thanks to your help, I called Irl Baldwin and Fabian Folmer, the original pilot and the ground crew chief of Hell's Angels respectively, and interviewed them on the phone. I also obtained a copy of Might in Flight, and Mr. Baldwin and Mr. Folmer gave me tons of very good first-hand primary-source information for my paper. I was honored to and had a great time dealing with everyone who helped me out on this project, and I would certainly do it again if I had the choice. It was most definitely a very enjoyable learning experience. As it turned out, I got an A on the paper. I will give copies of it to Mr. Baldwin and Mr. Folmer, and I will then ask their permission to submit the paper to the 303rd BGA. I believe it is one of the most in-depth pieces written on the history of the aircraft and its crew, though I know there is much more to be said about them than I could possibly ever say in a 15-page research paper with endnotes. Thank you all for your help.

Zach Simmons zsimmons@excite.com (16 Feb 99) I would like to find out more information from anyone who either served or had a family member serve.

Bill Burke burkejb@erols.com (14 Feb 99) (family of a 303rd Member) Trying to locate anyone who might have known my uncle, SSGT James C. Burke, Tail Gunner on Shangri-La Lil, 360th BS. He was shot down near St. Omer, France on 27 August 1943. I assume he was captured near there and moved to POW camp. Not positive, but believe he was in Stalag XVIIB at Krems, Austria. Would appreciate anyone who might have known him, or who may have been in Stalag XVIIB would be willing to share experiences. Thanks, I visit this site just about everyday.

Geraldo de Oliveira Sampaio geraldo9@unisys.com.br (14 Feb 99) Good site and very interesting photos, as a modeler, my main subject is WWII and Boeing B-17, I have some models of the flying fortress on my shelf. So I will return to take more information about your bombardment group, congratulations for you and your site.

B. Horton (14 Feb 99) (family of a 303rd Member) My dad, a B-17 pilot, received a note from Ed after he joined the 303rd BGA. The note included a your website for additional information. The website used to included an area to request specific mission reports for $.05 per page. I have been unable to find the area to request mission reports. My dad is interested in obtaining several of the reports now. Please let me know how to go about ordering these for him. I have printed out a great deal of information for him from this website and put it in a scrapbook for him. He was elated. Keep up the good work!! It is an honor to be related to a member of the 303rd.
[The offer for mission reports has been temporarily removed, but will be placed back online very soon. The price will revert back to 10 cents/page, per the Board of Directors meeting last August. They will be available from the Missions page.]

Quentin W. Hargrove VQHARGROVE@aol.com (14 Feb 99) (303rd BGA Member) Very well done. How do we submit more information?
[Click here for information.]

Ralph M. Sudderth, Jr. easrms@aol.com (12 Feb 99) (303rd BGA Member) Thanks for all the good work in organizing these pages. I am trying locate Herbert L. Smith, 39106727. one of the crew members of IZA VAILABLE TOO. I did not find him listed under personnel. Any ideas?
[He's there.... try the new search page and enter his serial number.]

David Miller millerffpg@earthlink.net (12 Feb 99) (family of a 303rd Member - very proud second son of Ed Miller) Thank you for an outstanding site and for all the tremendous effort this task requires. I know you do it as a labor of love and pride for your father, but from the rest of us, I just wanted you to know how much it means to us. If there is any way I can assist you with the site, I will not refuse any task you ask of me. Dave

Ron Olson rolson@jma-inc.com (10 Feb 99) My dad was a tail gunner on one of your B-17s and was interned in Switzerland in 1944.

James R. Morrin sailman@compuserve.com (10 Feb 99) (family of a 303rd Member) Thank you for creating this site. My dad was John Morrin, a pilot of the 360th, and I'm looking for survivors from his crew. your web site!

Lawrence C. Farrell, Jr. Danger77@aol.com (8 Feb 99) (family of a 303rd Member) My father, Lawrence C. Farrell, Sr., and my uncle, Bernard Farrell were in the 303rd. Is there anyone out there who knew him who could tell me about their missions and aircraft? Thank you.

GRESSER, Walther Walther.Gresser@t-online.de, Bozener Str.6, D-85221 Dachau (7 Feb 99) Hallo! I found your list from previous reunions an dedication ceremonies but I missed the dedication from June 16th 1998 in Schweinfurt of the Second Schweinfurt Memorial Association. I was a Luftwaffenhelfer in Schweinfurt with 15 (!) years at the 8,8 cm Flak in 1943 - 1944 and I was a member of the celebration and reunion in Schweinfurt last year, too. Your speaker: Bud KLINT. A new friend of mine: Ale (Albert) SANTELLA. Our speaker: Georg Schäfer, Schweinfurt. It is possible to complete your list with Schweinfurt? Sorry my rather poor English; but therefore I am a victim of the Second War, too. Your sincerely Walther Gresser. Schweinfurt

Feller Roger Wolwelange feller@pt.lu (6 Feb 99) Nice web site. I'm from Luxembourg living in the Ardennes near Bastogne. On 28th of September a B-17 of your BG crashed not far from here. 385 BS Bouncing Betty II Serial # 43-38176. We have some original parts from this plane in our Museum of the 385th BG at Perlé

Stephen M. Nunan snunan@earthlink.net (6 Feb 99) My friend, Basil (Buddy) D. Hight passed away this Jan,1999. Flew 34 missions in the 360th with a pilot named Stivers. Worked for IBM, and started getting interested in B-17s again, later in life. Attended several reunions. He loved to work on old Ford Mustangs, and rigged an air compressor, a B-17 oxygen tank (used for our air storage) and had a pretty good paint rig! If anyone knew him, please let me know. I was a peacetime Navy man in the early 80's on an ammo ship and am glad I never had to see a shot fired in anger. I found this site searching for info for his widow. He never said much about it.

Dr. Chris Ryder cryder@teleport.com (5 Feb 99) (family of a 303rd Member) My father, Irving J. Ryder, originally from Boston, MA, served with the 303 as ground crew. I think he was with the 358th squadron. He passed away a few years ago, but I still have a large hand painted leather patch showing an angel dropping a bomb from atop a cloud. As is common, I'm told, he rarely talked about the war, so I know very little about his experiencecs with the 303. I do know he was with the unit from training in Oregon and I think, Texas, through service in North Africa later in the war. Nice to see this page as a reminder of what you all accomplished.

W.G. (Bill) Hendon wmhendon@webtv.net (4 Feb 99) (303rd BGA Member) Would like to hear from anyone in 303rd Bomb Group Assn.

James O. Matthews oseematt@express-news.net (1 Feb 99) (303rd BGA Member) T/Sgt. Radio/Gunner with Johnnie Johnston, crew assigned to Hell's Angels, from July 21st to December 24th, 1943. Pilot Johnston and navigator William Karraker, of Lexington, KY, flew the ground crew back to the U.S. on or about January 11, 1944. Have pictures of the crew when shot down over France July 14th, 1943, when flying Memphis Blues. and have pictures of Johnston's crew of July 21st, 1943 with Hell's Angels, the Ship.

Brian McGuire bmcguire@acsdefense-dc.com (31 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) Gary - Hope everything is well with you. Just a knit to pass on; listing of 390th on the links page mentions it as a 1AD unit - it was 3rd Air Div. Cheers. Brian

Robert Koshar bikeinc@home.com (31 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I would like to contact someone who flew with my father, Jerome Koshar, 360th Bombardment Group. He was in action from 7/44 to 3/45. So far I have learned he was on Moselle's crew of 7/15/44 from the personnel page. Thank you.

Donald O "SPEC" Campen, Jr. ibspec@aol.com (31 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) I am so pleased after these months since I inquired about Joseph Czerwonka. James O'Leary recently responded and I am so pleased as he was a pilot with Joe. Joe is deceased. It is another proof that this is a most valuable web site that Gary put together. Many Thanks.

Gary Bedingfield gary@gbedingfield.freeserve.co.uk (30 Jan 99) Hello: I'm rather hoping you might be able to assist me. I'm writing a history of US military baseball in Britain during WW2 and the 303rd were a prominent force. I'd really like to make contact with anyone who played, organized or merely watched the 303rd Bomb Group's ball team during those dark years. Could I be so bold as to ask you to pass on my address and e-mail details to anyone who'd like to make contact with me on this matter. Many thanks, Gary Bedingfield
55 Capel Road, Enfield, Middlesex, EN1 4SR, Great Britain

Diana Woolpert Brunello magoo@interplus.net (27 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) My father is John Woolpert.I found this web site just last week. Since then my father's crew picture has been added (Pilot - John Scott 360th) and he has spoken with another member of his crew, Robert Morris. I can't tell you how thrilled he was to be able to do this. I have spent hours going through this site, reading the first hand accounts of what happened. This is so important to have available for the future generations.

My dad has spoken of only one mission that really stands out in his memory. They had flown a total of 27 or 28 missions. It was the 17th or 18th that he told me about. They were on a bombing mission over Hamburg. Their target was the fuel supply for the new German Jets, the ME-262. On the way over their B-17 was hit with anti-aircraft fire which took out one of the engines. They lost altitude but continued on. Over Hamburg they completed their mission, but not before they had lost another engine to a bomb that had been dropped by one of the other B-17s above. Because of the loss of power from losing 2 engines they were a bit slow in getting out of there. A German ME-262 came after them. My dad, who was the Tail-Gunner, was able to shoot down the jet but only after the jet had shot out the third engine on the B-17. They were now flying with one engine. Pilot John Scott made the decision that they were going to try to make it back to Northhampton. They did not want to have to ditch in the English Channel. In order to save fuel they were told to dump everything that was not essential. Because the missions were so long they took a sack lunch with them. The navigator, Lt. Bergvall, had finished everything but his orange. While they were tossing things out he asked the pilot if he had to toss his orange too. This caused all the crew to laugh, and helped get them through a very scary time. My dad says all they could think about was wanting to see the White Cliffs of Dover. They new that if they could make it that far they would be safe. They were able to land and they all came out of it unharmed. At that time it was thought to be only the 6th ME-262 shot down. 50 years later a friend sent my father the article that had appeared in Stars and Stripes. It named my father and said it was the 11th ME shot down. He had heard it was in the paper but had never seen it before this.

My Dad would love to get any information on the others in his crew. If any one has some please send to my e-mail address and I will get it to my father. I would also like to get more details on this mission and what happened to the plane. Thanks again for such an outstanding web site, and the trip back through history. You guys are great!

Annette Bellanger JUGP47D@aol.com (26 Jan 99) I have spent the past several days browsing your wonderful web site. You have so many interesting areas and they are all well crafted and presented. I am a volunteer at the Lone Star Flight Museum located in Galveston, TX. The museum has a B-17 that carries the Thunderbird nose art and name. I was given the opportunity to fly (my first flight ever) in the bombardier seat of this beautiful piece of history. What a memory!

Thomas Hayman scorpion11@msn.com (25 Jan 99) I would just like to say thanks for the response that I have been getting from the Christmas cards I sent this year to a few of the vets. It is very interesting to hear in your own words what you did and what you saw while here at Molesworth. The card project is Brian McGuire's doing, but I am glad I did my bit. I feel like a little kid waiting for stories to come back by mail ... so thanks to all you old guys for taking the time to write back to a nosey youngster. I will be writing back again. I thought that I just needed to say this so everyone knows how much we like hearing from you guys. Thanks again, Tom Hayman
[The response that I have received from 303rd BG(H) members over the Christmas cards they received from friends at RAF Molesworth has been wonderful. You brought a lot of joy to a bunch of "young guys" who are touched by the fact that they are still remembered. Thanks for your efforts Harry D. Gobrecht President & Historian 303rd BG(H) Association]

Jim Neal padad60@aol.com (24 Jan 99) I was a 303rd Bomb Wing member in the USAF in 1957/8 at Davis Monthan AFB, Tucson, Arizona. I was searching for info on the 303rd and came across your site. Good job on the site. Our Wing was honored to wear the unit citation your unit must have earned in WWII. Thanks for your service in protecting the USA!!!!!

Friends of the 385th Bomb Group - Luxembourg gries@pt.lu or feller@pt.lu (24 Jan 99) ***In search of information on crashed B-17 near Perle, Luxembourg, in November 1944*** On 9 November 1944, a B-17 crashed near the village of Perle, Luxembourg. Most of the crewmen were able to bail out. One member of the crew died as his parachute was caught up in the bomber tail. The other men were secured by US ground forces (might have been 28th Infantry Division) stationed in Perle. We have no other information regarding this B-17. If there is someone out there, maybe a former member of this crew, we would appreciate any help or support you might want to give us. Regards, Guy Ries - Our Site: http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/8814/
[8th AF records indicate that there were 18 B-17s lost on 09 November 1944. One 388th BG(H) 562nd BS B-17 #42-97102 Cicero Kid was shot down by German Fighters and crashed at Fouches, Luxembourg (2 crewmen KIA and 7 returned). I have no further information. Source: The Mighty Eighth Combat Chronology, compiled by Paul M. Andrews and William H. Adams, 1997, for the Eighth AF Memorial Museum Foundation.]

Craig J. Waffle MAJ. FA. Ret. Wash Army Nat'l Guard majwaffle@aol.com (22 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I grew up with bits and pieces of my father's career in the USAF and the 303rd. It has been a pleasure to hear more of the details from the flight crews' perspective. You have done an outstanding job. I hope to share what I've found with my father.

Mrs. Donna J. Morrows emorrows@monmouth.com (21 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I am trying to learn about my father's experiences during the war and as a member of the 303rd. My father passed away 18 years ago and there is so much I wish I could ask him. Now that I have found your website I may find some of the answers to my questions. I am sending in my membership form tomorrow.

John E. Goetz, IV goetziv@charlestonsteel.com (21 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) Nephew of Lt.William H. Goetz, Pilot / 427th. Great Job.

Carl Turnage carl.turnage@alcoa.com (22 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) Just wanted to drop you a line to express my appreciation for such a fine web page. My step father is Billy A Cunningham he was a co-pilot with the Vern L. Moncur crew on the 359th. This has meant so much to him, getting to attend the reunion and talking with old friends. I think the accommodation they received was well deserved and well overdue. Once again keep up the good work and thank you.

John (Jack) H. Kleinsorg pres 92ndBG mem.assoc oldnav92ndbg@netscape.net (21 Jan 99) What a wonderful web site. We would like to get on the net also. We have no clue about how to get started? Could we hear from you and your story about how your project got off the ground. Thank you.
[Jack--Do you have a quarterly Newsletter? If so, I would suggest you send out a "Request" for one of your members, or one of their children who are really into this "Internet thing" to take on the job of being the Webmaster. I would think that you would be able to find several who would be eager to get started on building you folks a fine Web Site. There are several Web sites of the World War II Bomb Groups on the Web, and anyone who volunteered to take on the 92nd will have a real spread of ideas, if he takes the time to review the World War II web sites that are now on line. Best of Luck--You won't be sorry that you sponsored a Site. We have found a large number of our "Lost Comrades" due to our Web Site, and we are continually being contacted by sons, daughters, and relatives of our World War II 303rd BG veterans.]

Steward M. Bestwick hagrat@belsouth.net (21 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) As a very new Associate, or now "Friend of the 303rd," I was honored to meet the actual members of the Group during the past Reunion in Georgia. It was truely impressive to get the chance to sit around and hear the real deal from the real deal. I've been phoning Ed Miller and the Pres. for the past few months, as well as Irl Baldwin, what a man and men. Hope I can make the 99 reunion in OK. The Hells Angels Motorcycle Club has a 1999 calendar with a special dedication to the 303rd BGA(H), I think it is very nice and I know that it's being sold all over the world. My best regards and warmest wishes for the best to all in the new year.

Richard Kindred and Beryl E. Kindred rkindred@kskc.net (20 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) We were looking for information on the PRINCESS PAT #2 a/c# 338065 VKJ and found lots of interesting information and photos of other things.

Ron Putz ronputz@cuci.nl (19 Jan 99) Great website and a fitting memorial to all the men of the 303rd. I will add a link on my website to yours. Keep up the good work.

Gary W Hayworth iuig@quiknet.com (19 Jan 99) I am a 38 year old male who has not forgotten what you have done so our lives can free. I have had the nose art tattooed on my right arm of the B-17 BONNIE-B. I would be interested in all info on this plane and her crew. I KNOW SHE FLEW in 1944 in the 303rd BG and was salvaged the same year. Thank you in advance for your help.
[Thanks for your 303rd BGA Guest Book message. B-17G-20-BO, Bonnie-B #42-31483 303rd BG(H)/359th BS (BN-P) was delivered to the USAAF on 6 November 1943, Arrived in the United Kingdom on 12 December 1943, assigned to the 359th BS/303rd BG(H) at Molesworth, England on 01 January 1944. She flew her last and 93rd combat mission on 05 September 1944, making a forced landing at Airfield A-62 near Paris, France returning from a combat mission to Ludwigwigshaven, Germany. She lost a propeller after being hit by German anti-aircraft guns and made the emergency landing with two engines out. The B-17 was left in France and was salvaged. Bonnie-B was named by her Pilot 1stLt George Neil Bech, Jr. after his baby daughter Bonnie. Harry D. Gobrecht, President and Historian 303rd Bomb Group (H) Association]

BILL HELLER wheller@attglobal.net (19 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) Gary ... Once again a little story. While it is not fully germane to the 303rd, it is a story about the fighters they met in the sky over Germany. It is a story about a huge coincidence. You may be aware that during my stint with the post-war Lufthansa, I became friends with former Luftwaffe General Adolf "Dolfo" Galland. I also happen to be friends with the fellow who shot Galland down in April of 1945 - Jim Finnigan, who lives in Marin County across the Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco. Last week, a high school chum of mine was visiting Las Vegas and hosted Ruth and I to dinner. During the evening I was telling my high school chum, who flew P-47s in early 1945 in the ETO - the story about Jim Finnigan. He interrupted me to say quite loudly, "You know Jim Finnigan? He was in my Squadron in France!" I believe this is proof that we indeed live in a small world. Jim Finnigan is now in a Nursing home, having had a stroke about a year ago. I spoke with his wife this evening and told her to give Jim my kindest regards and the hope for a recovery. As an aside, I also am friends with Virginia Bader, cousin of the late Sir Douglas Bader, RAF, and also a friend of the late Galland. She told me about the time Galland asked her to marry him - when I told Jim this, he excitedly said, "So that is why they were holding hands when they were here!" War makes fine comrades AND some interesting vignettes and experiences we all had. Thanks for the time.

Dinah Hammond Trinkle jamest@scin.quik.com (18 Jan 99) I have spent the last two days looking at your wonderful page. My interest comes via my Father, Walter E. Hammond, Waist Gunner, John M. Twomey crew, 358th, in 303rd. I am seeking any information regarding his crew. I think he would enjoy hearing from any of this crew. Thanks to all.

RO (T/SGT) George F. Parker (427th) gfpscotty@aol.com (17 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) I was a member of 303rd BG from November 1944 to April 1945. Was a member of 1st Lt. Grafton Gar (POP's) Smith. We were in the 427th Squadron. Our crew went down on our 13th and 14th mission. We lost our Bombardier and Navigator (POWs). Came back after 10 days on the continent. Went out on our 14th mission. Went down again and lost the Navigator and Tail Gunner (both wounded). Finished our 35th mission. Our CO-PILOT LT Mel Alderman was (KIA) on his 35th mission. He had to fly the last 3 missions as 1st pilot. He was KIA on the last mission. Very good presentation. All Crew members belong to 303rd BG, Grafton Smith, Ed Gardner, George Parker, Al Dussliere, Bill Dohm and Mel Howell. The ships we went down in were BUZZ-Blonde and Cheshire Cat. Thanks once again for letting us comment. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

Pete Foote musashi@usxchange.net (16 Jan 99) Hello, I taught for years with a man who won the DFC flying B-17s out of England in 1944. I stumbled upon this site and to my surprise I found his name. 2nd Lt. Keith Clapp of J. Melton's crew. He was a bombardier. I had asked him to give the markings of his ship, he did so and I have since lost them. I would love to put a model together for him. He has retired from teaching and I haven't spoken with him in years. Can you give me any info on the name of the B-17 and its markings? Best wishes and thank you.

Dennis U. Bjorn dennisbjorn@webtv.net (16 Jan 99) My uncle was a crew member / survivor on a B-17 lost in action on 15 Aug 44. I acquired the after action reports from this mission from the National Archives. I would like to get ANY information about his aircraft (42-31423-M), specifically a photo or description of the painting of the aircraft, any nose art it may have had, and any other combat history that may be available.

John R Cairns cairns@m130.aone.net.au (14 Jan 99) At last! Is there anybody out there who could please give me some information about the B-17 Knockout Dropper. Was she saved,scraped,or destroyed in combat? Any information would be greatly appreciated as I have fascination about this aircraft and her career.
[Knockout Dropper #41-24605 was delivered to the USAAF on 20 August 1942. Was assigned to the 303rd Bombardment Group (H) 359th Bomb Squadron on 21 October 1942 at Kellogg Field, Battle Creek, MI. It arrived at the 303rd BG(H) airfield at Molesworth, England on 22 September 1942 carrying the letters "BN" for 359th BS and "R" for the B-17. She flew her first combat mission on 18 November 1942. She became the first 8th Air Force B-17 to complete 50 combat missions on 16 November 1943 and 75 combat missions on 27 March 1944, after which she was returned to the USA on 31 March 1944 for a training assignment. Twenty-nine different Pilots flew Knockout Dropper on her 75 combat missions. Knockout Dropper was last flown for scrapping at Stillwater, OK on 19 July 1945. She was seen at the Downtown Airpark in Oklahoma City in 1948 and was later scrapped. Harry Gobrecht]

Dewey Fambry WOLF380@aol.com (13 Jan 99) My name Fambry is a very rare name, I found a SSG Louis F. Fambry who was a waist gunner on a B-17 (360th). I found from them that he has passed, but I would like to find his family if there is one. Anyone with any info about Louis, please contact me by Email. Great job, to all of you who served. Dewey Fambry 1SGT Retired

John Bouton John.Bouton@clr.com (11 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) Great website! My uncle was Paul Bouton, co-pilot of the LEAPIN' LIZ when she went down 3 JAN 1943 over St.Nazaire France. His nickname was "Uncle Bou" and he was on his 4th mission. He is buried in Arlington. This mission was written up in a war-time book called Target-Berlin, I believe. His younger brother, my dad- Jack Bouton, became a pilot of the UNCLE BOU in the 390th BG. You might say I've got it in my blood. I'll be back!!

Kathy O'Leary Streifling streif@whitman.edu (11 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) I admit with much chagrin that I've let my 303rd membership lapse and this website makes me regret that lapse immensely! I love reading all the news and articles. My father is James W. O'Leary Sr. 303rd, 427th Squadron. I went to the reunion in England six (?) years ago. I met so many wonderful people and really for the first time understood the immense sacrifice you all made. God bless you all and Thank You.

James W. O'Leary, Sr. sqdnldr@mt.freei.net (10 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) Gary Moncur: I have been in touch with both Ed Miller and yourself re: my mission list, photos etc. I have my crew picture, and pictures of friends lost on mission to Merseburg. Also picture of my right wingman, 2nd Lt. "Tommy" Eisenhart, who had received direct hit in his tailwheel well. His plane slid under my lead aircraft after being hit, and my radio room camera which had been turned on at IP, took the picture. The photo lab presented it to me next day after the 13 Jan 45 mission to Mannheim, Ger. I saved everything relating to my leads ie: Navigator's maps, pilot flimsies, strike photos etc. Let me know what you can use. The Eisenhart crew were all KIA. Most of them are buried in the Lorraine American Cemetery, near Moselle, France. I've got a package almost ready to send to Ed Miller. Cordially, Jim O'Leary, Sr., 427th BS

Stacy Shelton stashelton@aol.com (9 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) My half brother E.G. Shelton was Deputy Director and later Director of Operations of the Davis-Monthan 303rd (b-47's),Arizona (SAC) Feb 1953.

Ralph E. Page WGPage@aol.com (7 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) My father will be sending you a photo of his crew for your web site. He appreciated seeing all the WWII memorabilia he saw on your website but hopes to see more in the future. Hopefully others will provide more material to you, as he intends to do. Sincerely, William G. Page

John W. Howland jhowland@sat.net (7 Jan 99) I flew with the 8th AF, Pathfinder Navigator (DR) with the 381st and 91st Bomb Groups. Missions started with Oschersleben, (Jan. 11, 1944) and ended with Berlin (June 21, 1944). Of the thirty missions, nineteen were lead or deputy lead with the 1st Combat Wing. Last March I returned to England for a visit. Discovered a book written by my college classmate, friend and fellow flyer with the 91st was out of print and hard to come by. The book, Serenade to the Big Bird, was written by Bert Stiles. I decided to publish a Memorial Edition which is now available. Once again, hello to all my friends from Molesworth. John W. Howland, Ridgewell & Bassingbourn

Val Pajer vpajer@connix.com (6 Jan 99) Great web site! Very interesting info. I spent time in the UK at Brize-Norton RAF Station in Carterton, Oxfordshire, from 1953 to 1955. This was a SAC Base at the time. I have always been aware that you guys were there before us and made history. We were very proud to have followed you. I was driving on one of the roads near us and we passed one of your bases (I think). It was situated out in a farmer's field. I will visit your site often. God Bless

Jim Walling jimwall@ilhawaii.net (6 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) Gary, I need help from a member with a better memory than mine. I was recently asked what we did on the long 8-10 hour flights for food and water. I remember that we took sandwiches that the radioman thawed out in an electric muff after we were safely away from the target area, but I don't remember any liquids. Can anyone help me on this?
[I served with the 358th BS and we usually had sandwiches - some very good and some very bad. We also had a box of hard candy (Carbohydrates) that we sucked to help keep our mouths moist. Long hours on Oxygen would dry out your mouth. My crew was never issued water, coffee or any other liquids, but I understand some crew took liquids. If you took liquids on long missions you would have to go to the bathroom which was a great inconvenience in a B-17, especially for the Pilots. In addition the Crew Chiefs didn't favor anyone urinating in the bomb bay of their B-17s since it was messy and then smelled. I do not recall being inconvenienced or uncomfortable by not having liquids. Today it would be a problem if I couldn't enjoy the bathroom every few hours. Harry D. Gobrecht]

William A. Hoyt hoytwma2@msn.com (6 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) What a great site! A lot of effort has gone into this and I would like to say thanks to everyone involved! Thanks

Julie Busse jbusse@home.com (5 Jan 99) My father is Alfred S. Lafranchi, a member of Leonard M. Brown's crew the 360th. This site is very cool. Yet pictures and history. Thanks!!!!

Stanley Bober StanBober@aol.com (5 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) I'd like to hear from anyone who flew with me. 427th BSG, Caplinger's. Still kicking in Tucson, AZ

Bill Heller wheller@attglobal.net (5 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) Gary, Pursuant to a recent entry in your Guest Book, may I remind ALL of the 303rd wonderful people - and others - to read Tom Brokaw's newest book, The Greatest Generation. It paints OUR generation VERY well. Ask for it in a book store or a library.

Donald O. "SPEC" Campen, Jr. ibspec@aol.com (4 Jan 99) (303rd BGA Member) One and all availing themselves to this great site by Gary Moncur, and so current with Harry's and others responses, should promptly email thanks to all who have developed this address that will long keep our bomb group history alive and remembered. My cheers to and thanks to all. More of our citizens should be aware of our WWII contributions.

Thomas P. Kerr tkerr2002@sbcglobal.net (3 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) My cousin, 2LT James R. Burns, was a co-pilot with 303rd. He was KIA on 3 Mar 44.

Michael A. Hustus mhustus@netcom.com (2 Jan 99) Thank You for your informative web site. I was searching my family name and found Walter L. Hustus. Over the years we have found family we didn't know we had. Walter's name has never came up. I will have to ask more questions.

Harry Lawrence lawrence_harry@dao.co.harris.tx.us (1 Jan 99) I am a volunteer at the Lone Star Flight Museum in Galveston, Texas. You may be aware, but in case you are not the Museum has a B-17 which is the reproduction of Thunderbird. Over the past two years I have had the honor of flying to two airshows [Okla. City in '97 and Davenport, Iowa in '98] in this plane. I am 49 years old, so I missed WWII, but when when flying on this plane I could almost feel myself being transported back in time to that era. The next scheduled air show for the Museum and Thunderbird is the last weekend in April '99. If you or any of your members are in the area during that time please drop by and watch us fly. I have enjoyed your Website on the 303rd. Feel free to contact me.
[We know your Thunderbird well! I climbed through her in Oshkosh in 1995. I talked with someone on her crew there and told him I was the first Thunderbird pilot's son. He let my friend and I go onboard and wouldn't take our money. It was quite an honor. I also have two photos of your Thunderbird on my wall in my computer room. I envy you being able to fly on her. I hope to have that opportunity someday. Please keep us up to date with her schedule. I'm sure many would love to see her when she's in their area. Thanks for writing! Gary Moncur]

Owen McGrath mcgrath@socrates.berkeley.edu (1 Jan 99) (family of a 303rd Member) Fantastic site! I was looking around on behalf of Norm Morrissette, a dear friend of our family. Norm didn't realize that there's an active 303rd veterans group. I'm printing out as much of this as possible. Thanks again.

Don Spruner spruners@mlode.com (1 Jan 99) Gary-- May I make one correction in the history section that includes "bodies returned in aircraft" --- Edwin H. Katz was the navigator and was a 1st Lt. and was flying with O'Leary crew (427th) I think maybe Craven and Katz were transposed in the list as Craven was a Sgt flying TT -- A minor change but an important one for historical purposes.
[Thanks for catching our error..... It has been corrected.]

Earl Benham 110552.1512@compuserve.com (1 Jan 99) I flew a tour with the 100th - dates 1943 1944 from Oct 13 to July 28th.